The Best of Techman - Part IV
Can Super 16D Parma and Trinity compete with Super 16D RJR and Koford? Which modifications are legal? I have bought 2 armatures Trinity Super 16D, and I have realized that one has a Armature Stack Length .486 while the other one measure
s .433. I want to know:
1. Are they both Super 16D?
2. Yield differences and characteristic of each one
Does anybody know how Nuway Industries's Smart Brake works, if it is effective, and which its price is?
Thank you Marcelo.
Marcelo,
For your first question, about Parma and Trinity S-16 competing with
RJR or Koford S-16, I am not sure if it is a performance question or a rules
question. In most S-16 racing, the promoter or sanctioning organization
sets the rules (perhaps even just a local raceway), but most places allow any
true S-16 specification arm to race with any other. Some places require
only Parma or Trinity made in China, because they are generally a bit slower and
always less reliable than American made armatures. Incidentally, Koford
does not make a S-16 arm, but ProSlot does. It is also marketed by FastOnes and
several other 'blueprinters'. As for modifications, again the promoter
decides, but most rules allow any springs, any brushes, any setup sold with
the armature inside (both new and old Parma and Trinity), magnets zapped,
matched, and glued but NOT shimmed, no spring insulation, no shunt wire, no
timing limit (except Challenge Cup, limited to 25 degrees and by inference,
not allowing the Trinity Adjustable Timing setup).
Your Trinity armatures seem to be one (.486 length) that was intended
to be a true S-16, but is a few thousandths short of the minimum specification
of .490", and one that was marketed as an "outlaw" Super 16. Some raceways
allow them in the regular S-16 races, claiming they are hard to tech
without requiring a teardown: Most sanctioning bodies do not consider it a true
S-16. The shortstack arm will run faster and hotter, and should use a gear
ratio to reflect higher RPM.
I have not tried, or heard anything much about the SmartBrake. If you
feel you need an adjustable brake, you should probably just mount one to
the controller. One thing I am sure about is that it cannot increase brakes
over a standard three wire resistor controller setup, although it may very well
provide effective partial brake control. From its description, it seems to
be similar to the Cidex variable brake scheme, which uses a diode to limit
the reverse EMF brake spike. Speaking only as a private person and in my
opinion only, I would use a variable resistor for limiting brakes.
Good luck and good brakes. Techman
In the artical "Setting up a Strap Motor" it mentions installing the magnets with a jig.Could you tell me where I might be able to buy one or how to go about building one. Thank you, Rob
Rob,
I, and most every other motor builder around, use armature 'slugs',
available from Koford, Camen and others in a large variety of diameters. If
you have access to a small machine shop or that sort of equipment, you could
graft some limiters onto the slug that would hold the magnets exactly 180
degrees apart. The problem is that you would need a different jig for each
diameter, and also for different magnet heights. The combinations become
mathematically daunting! I would reccommend just using the slugs, and
measure between magnet tips top and bottom with a calipers to set the 180
degree separation.
Good luck and good motor building. Techman
I am currently looking for a dc motor that has a parrallel shaft. It needs 40 watts and 9 to 12 volts. High rpms would be a plus.
Chris,
With the shaft parallel to what? Most entry level slotcar motors will
use no more than 40 watts at 9 to 12 volts if the load is not too severe. As
DC motors go, all slotcar motors are relatively high RPM. Get one that is
balanced for maximum rotational speed under load.
Good luck, with whatever the project is.
Techman
As you know Techman, I have a lot of trouble with axels. With your help though I have got a handle on getting them true with the tires. My driving style however puts me to the wall a lot more than the average racer and in some cases even
the beginner racer. Untill I figure a way to tame my finger and slow the pace I would like to know if there are any tricks for changing an axel in a very short time as I tend to break them a lot. Replacing an axel during power on can cost me as many as
25 laps. Help and thanks. Your advice is always good and has put me in the winners circle even when driving with the best racers in the Country.
Thanks, Chuck
Chuck,
Thanks for asking your question here: You aren't the only racer who is
hard on axles and Ben always can use more material for 'best of T-man'
compilations!
To be prepared for axle damage, have the spare ready with all its flats,
duplicate washers, tires, and spur gear. If you really want to move fast,
keep several extra allen wrenches loaded in the spare components.
If you break or bend the axle, you should be able to remove it from the
car by loosening only one setscrew, maximum (thats if you break off the
gearside tire). Any other break should be removeable with just a firm pull
to squeeze the spur past the pinion.
If you really want to go fast, actually practice the procedure. It can
be done quite rapidly: I once witnessed Mike Swiss tear down the axle
assembly, REPLACE A BEARING, and put it back together in under a minute
(Beuford's car, 1991 Nats main). Even at group 7 speeds, it took under 20
laps!
Can you do a basics of slot electronics..brakes specifically? Thanks. There are two rails so where does the brake wire go? Is the braking in the controller or powersupply? Is braking applied by revrsing voltage or what? Is there any way t
o make adjustable braking? I know some electronics principles but no slot-electronics.
Thanks,
Greg Olsen
Sure Greg, no problem! The white wire of your controller is connected to
the positive side of the battery or power supply - actually, to the relay
that turns the track on and off, which leads to the battery. The black wire
connects to the positive braid on the track. The red wire connects to the
negative track braid AND to the negative side of the battery or power
supply. This is for a positive gate track (the most common method). It is
also possible to reverse the connections at the battery, creating a negative
gate track. It is important to know which you have because transistor
controllers are designed for one or the other. A resistor or diode
controller doesn't care.
Brakes are actually generated by your motor as it coasts, and switched on
when the wiper in the controller touches the portions of the control that
connect directly to the red wire. The (relatively) small reverse current
being generated by the coasting motor is fed back to the motor (essentially
by connecting the two sides of the braid together) and causes it to slow
quickly. Adjustability of braking can only be done to reduce, but never
increase, the brakes that you get from a stock controller setup. In this
case, a variable resistor is added to the red wire to reduce the braking
voltage.
Good luck, and good braking! Techman
What is the difference between red, white, and gold dot magnets? Also, are the Koford 12 arms as bad as I hear they are (someone told me they were getting smoked every 15 minutes down at the Nats)?
Jacob,
Red dot magnets are made by Mura. They are the same magnet used in the
production motors, but the match is usually pretty good. They are probably
the most widely used magnets in any brand of C can, as both Koford and
Champion also resell this magnet. Gold dots are the FastOnes version of
whatever magnet he's selling: There are 16d, Super 16d, and C can gold
dots.
They are all rezapped factory stock magnets for the class they are sold as.
The C can magnets are Mura. The only white dot magnet I'm aware of right
now
is one of the RJR single sets (as opposed to quads).
The Koford group 12 arm is wound on a somewhat heavier blank than say,
a ProSlot or Camen. This makes it better suited to drag racing. I hadn't
heard of any particular problems with them at the Nats, but then I would
also be surprised if many were even tried. My copy of the Nats techsheets
shows that in the 16 cars that made the two Boxstock mains, 13 arms were
ProSlot, two were FastOnes (which are made by ProSlot) and one was a Mura.
In the Cobalt 12 class, 3 racers listed ProSlot, 2 Camen, one Koford, one
Wright (actual manufacturer unknown) and one didn't list his arm on the
sheet.
Techsheets frequently lie, but its a safe bet Koford arms were much more
common in the Group 27 and 7 classes.
Techman
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